tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21772340073542599.post2229284375598114354..comments2024-03-24T19:43:16.277-07:00Comments on All Things Fangirl: Oscars & The Art Of Influence [Rant]LoquaciousMusehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10915505540153733746noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21772340073542599.post-65027839137946211942021-12-28T02:18:40.337-08:002021-12-28T02:18:40.337-08:00I've been searching for hours on this topic an...I've been searching for hours on this topic and finally found your post. <a href="https://www.bloglovin.com/@dsafdavdv/conquian" rel="nofollow">바카라사이트</a>, I have read your post and I am very impressed. We prefer your opinion and will visit this site frequently to refer to your opinion. When would you like to visit my site? <br /><br /><br />토토사이트https://www.blogger.com/profile/07237757158323465773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21772340073542599.post-4702275805666124262021-07-22T08:51:42.394-07:002021-07-22T08:51:42.394-07:00Terrific work! This is the type of info
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Children of Men was virtually ignored in every avenue that is considered a legitimate precursor to the Oscars.<br />Every year one of my favorite movies ends up considered a top ten by these standards (best-reviewed) but doesn't receive the buzz necessary to score in the Oscars. Because it's all about the damn buzz.<br /><br />I do not think Children of Men would have scored a nomination even if there were ten slots, because it simply didn't have the coveted "buzz" at the time the nominations were announced. If there were five slots this year, District 9 never would have made it, obviously, I'm not a moron, but because there were 10 slots, the film had just enough love to score a slot, which yes, I am thrilled about. Additionally thrilled because of the Academy's seeming bias against Science Fiction.<br /><br />Brokeback Mountain's buzz worked against it, same with Benjamin Button (though it lost it super early), same with Up in the Air. I knew Brokeback wasn't gonna win on Oscar night. Sometimes the push to demand something as the winner or the front-runner works against a movie, which is just as frustrating. <br /><br />You're out to get me, are ya? <br /><br />And it's not critics I have a problem with so much as it is "buzz" - the critics/institutions/websites that declare themselves the ones who know everything, the ones who think they can tell the Academy who to vote for when, hey, last I checked, it's up to the Academy to decide who the Academy votes for. <br /><br />I mean, come on, you have to admit that the "Avatar is gonna win best picture!" business that started happening before the movie was even released and "Up in the Air is the front-runner!" before the movie was sent out to Academy members crap is pretty silly.LoquaciousMusehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10915505540153733746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21772340073542599.post-5659444869553894762010-02-04T20:33:31.349-08:002010-02-04T20:33:31.349-08:00You're off-base here. There are lots of points...You're off-base here. There are lots of points that I could address, but I'll focus on one particularly problematic assertion, the idea that Children of Men wasn't nominated for Best Picture because it wasn't championed by critics.<br /><br />Take a look at this chart: http://www.moviecitynews.com/awards/2007/top_tens/00_index.htm<br /><br />See where Children of Men is? Now look at everything in that top ten that wasn't nominated for Best Picture: Little Children (#9), Borat (#6), Pan's Labyrinth (#5), and United 93 (#1). That's right; the movie that was most beloved by critics couldn't even score a BP nod. So it's not like critics dictate the Oscars.<br /><br />Children of Men also won a large number of awards and nominations, more than some of the other BP contenders received: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206634/awards<br /><br />So you don't think that maybe the reason why it was snubbed was simply because Academy members just didn't like the movie enough? You don't think that their well-known anti-scifi bias had anything to do with it? Do you admit the possibility that it would've been nominated had the BP category used ten slots like this year instead of the traditional five? Do you honestly think that District 9 would've been nominated for BP if there had only been five slots?<br /><br />Now consider this: Four years ago, the movie that won by far the most awards for best picture was Brokeback Mountain. And what won BP at the Oscars?<br /><br />Last year, WALL-E and The Dark Knight had the most list mentions (http://www.moviecitynews.com/awards/2009/top_ten/00scoreboard.htm). Did either get nominated for Best Picture, Best Director, or Screenplay?<br /><br />Now look at the movies that got the top ten most list mentions and tell me how many were nominated for BP: http://www.moviecitynews.com/awards/2010/top_ten/00_scoreboard.html<br /><br />I know how satisfied you are with this year's nominees for BP. So do you still think that the Academy should just ignore what the critics say? If the Academy had used ten slots three years ago, how closely do think the BP list would've matched the critics' list?Fei Menghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17534941709876911424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21772340073542599.post-43667764532916257772009-12-15T23:06:38.069-08:002009-12-15T23:06:38.069-08:00zomg despite how much they piss me off there is re...zomg despite how much they piss me off there is really no human means of quantifying how much better the Oscars are than fashion week. none.davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13480246131067612066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21772340073542599.post-33686262435109561132009-12-14T22:10:11.683-08:002009-12-14T22:10:11.683-08:00BUT the pretty dresses are my fave part! Screw the...BUT the pretty dresses are my fave part! Screw the actual award show...that's been disappointing me for years! It's all about the red carpet. New York has fashion week, LA has the Oscars.Castlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14671710847715038258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21772340073542599.post-11811400760447521262009-12-13T10:19:40.658-08:002009-12-13T10:19:40.658-08:00I wish I could post our Twitter conversation here ...I wish I could post our Twitter conversation here in the comments section, but that requires entirely too much effort. <br /><br />I agree that mostly, the Academy needs to rehaul their system to make sure members aren't easily influenced by all these outside sources - critics, prognostication, studio campaigns, etc. Like do what the NBR does and rate movies as they see them.<br /><br />And the Oscars SHOULD be about more than wearing pretty dresses and making studios money, it's just all gotten especially muddled in the past decade. I want the people who actually vote for their favorites to be heard instead of those that are cornered into voting for the "favorite", you know? <br /><br />I don't know about this RT score business. I already have loved a few movies this year that didn't score very high on RT. <br /><br />If Up in the Air wins - zzzzzzzzzzLoquaciousMusehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10915505540153733746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21772340073542599.post-63873556650300936392009-12-12T14:10:32.034-08:002009-12-12T14:10:32.034-08:00alsooooo, can they PLEASE just re-name it the AMER...alsooooo, can they PLEASE just re-name it the AMERICAN academy of motion picture arts and sciences so their refusal to acknowledge that the best film of any given year since the 20s might not have been American doesn't single-handedly negate their entire organization? kthx.davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13480246131067612066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21772340073542599.post-6033929374546029472009-12-12T14:04:43.094-08:002009-12-12T14:04:43.094-08:00p.s. Up in the Air WILL win best picture.p.s. Up in the Air WILL win best picture.davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13480246131067612066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21772340073542599.post-91218316056178590402009-12-12T14:03:48.750-08:002009-12-12T14:03:48.750-08:00if your mission is to afford the oscars at least a...if your mission is to afford the oscars at least a sliver of cinephilic dignity, then i applaud your efforts... but the oscars are simply too populist to ever respect film as much as they do their own machinations... and RATINGS. pundits have always and will always frame the debate... films don't care about the academy awards enough & the academy awards don't care about films enough for them all to screen for the academy first and have them be the tastemakers. and that's a GOOD THING. if academy members replaced film fest panels and audiences as initial tastemakers, cinema would die (god forbid the fate of a given film was decided upon solely by LA). the oscars are a heck of a lot of fun, but they're as meaningless as they are myopic... which makes them like most award shows, just with better dresses and higher ratings.<br /><br />having said that, improvement is certainly possible...defenses against the public discourse, if you will. and the only way to fix things is to renovate and renovate hard. but the problem isn't with the pundits and their interwebs, it's with the academy and its members.<br /><br />first, kick out 80% of the voters. standards need to be WAY the cuss higher. 2nd - require all voters in all categories to see ALL eligible films for every category... a ghastly task, particularly when the academy manages to make a mockery even of short lists... as you see when the best doc of any given year is perennially excluded from the qualifying roster. eliminate all the films with RT scores south of 70% and the list gets a lot shorter. those that don't see all the films don't get a vote, nor should they... thus every vote is more informed and more impassioned by default. i mean, your primary complaint is really just that oscar voters are too cussing lazy to form their own opinions divorced from public sway... this as close to a solution for that problem as you're gonna get in an awards race where films and perfs are backed by multi-million dollar campaigns. <br /><br />i understand your frustration... in no other medium do the pop and fine art communities co-mingle and swirl about one another as they in the film world, and thus film's biggest award show is naturally both galvanizing and divisive. but the oscars are a sideshow... they're a gag and they're a game. i can't abide an argument that suggests the film community should better respect AMPAS... AMPAS - if they hope to maintaing their relatively reputable presence for another 80 + yars - must better respect the film community.davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13480246131067612066noreply@blogger.com